stinkygoat ([info]stinkygoat) wrote,
@ 2007-09-04 00:44:00
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stage one
It's going reasonably well so far as far as we can tell. Coming up on 10k users which is reasonably good i think at less than two weeks.

We are going to release a small patch to fix a couple of minor issues that have come to our attention since launch. Coding for that was over in 5 minutes, now of course we must deal with the weeks of bureaucracy that releasing the fix entails. ("We will now spend two weeks checking for things we already checked for despite the fact that your update changes nothing of what was being checked for").

(I think if I had anything significant to say about the whole process it's that it's this massive, spirit-crushing inertia in everything that causes the pain).

I do need some complete disconnect time. We both do. Just to be away from in front of the machines, and beholden to nobody.

I've not even been enjoying going to Yakyak recently, there are some people there who just seem to want to nip you in the ankles and yammer on about trivial stuff no matter what you've just been through...

agh, I am just so tired of it all. I am fiercely proud of what we've done, and yes, I'll be ready to kick in the bollocks anyone who tries to claim that we've been lax or careless in our creation. What we've done was done with only a good and honest intent to make something that people would enjoy. And despite all I think we've done that. The fact that those who like it *really* like it so much makes it all worthwhile; we did something special here.

But now it needs to end for a while.


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[info]dr_memory
2007-09-04 12:06 am UTC (link)
Dude, you are like 2 years post due for a serious vacation. Book a ticket for you and G to somewhere warm and sunny where they'll bring you drinks with umbrellas in them. You've earned it. We'll all still be here when you get back, and I guarantee you'll like our ugly faces better for the break. :)

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[info]farahezuqy
2008-07-15 03:02 am UTC (link)
POSTED Wednesday, March 7, Autistic man from Britain is a human camera Next time you go on vacation, you could bring along one of those fancy digital SLR cameras for your sightseeing, capturing everything you see with megapixels of accuracy.

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Good job
[info]trezzer
2007-09-04 12:24 am UTC (link)
I'm glad that the game is selling well enough. I think it'll continue to spread like rings in the water. The more people talk about it (good or bad) the more curious people will be to try it.

I've been in some pretty fierce discussions myself and it's been interesting. I'm happy to say, though, that I've talked to far more people who like it than the opposite.

I've been following development from a distance for a while, and I can easily understand why you need a break. So take five. Or ten. Heck, take as long as you want, as long as you promise to come back with more Llamasoft fluffiness sooner or later. :)

Sorry to hear about how you feel about Yakyak at the moment. For what it's worth I think you should cherish the fact that you've created something so powerful that it invokes such strong feelings in players - one way or another. That is after all one of the main purposes of art: To get a reaction. Preferably a powerful one. I'd say you've succeeded. And you've also succeeded in making a game that's unlike any other and incredibly fun and addictive.

I hope you'll have a good time detached from the digital world. I'm gonna miss reading your posts, though, so don't be too long, ok?

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[info]tristabyqir
2008-07-16 12:26 am UTC (link)
Good people can join bad Tribes, and bad people can choose good ones. My Tribe thinks you choose your Tribe.

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[info]haileymusyn
2008-07-16 02:22 pm UTC (link)
It’s a KDE frontend for XINE, and I’ve been pretty happy with it. Development on it seems to be pretty lively too.

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IMHO...
[info]tallpete
2007-09-04 12:41 am UTC (link)
You can't please all the people all the time...

Back in the day, people who owned Commodore 64's were all of the same mindset - a real enthusiast crowd, and all enjoyed playing the same type of games - you couldn't program any really hardcore blood and guts, instead you had a few sprites with a bit of red. Everyone just sat down and enjoyed Fort Apocalypse, Park Patrol etc...

These days, consoles are purchased by the whole populace, not just enthusiasts. You get extremes - people who get to play games to watch rapes and murders on screen (whats wrong with the world?) and the other side - people who love Animal Crossing. The thing is if you get your extraordinary violence watchers who go and download something like Giraffe, they're not going to appreciate it at all. Whats more the internet makes it easy for those people to have a voice, so they sit and slag games off, direct with the author, and usually in all CAPS! Whats more they're a bit young, and they think if they have an opinion, then everybody else on the planet has exactly the same opinion.. they'll grow up.

The thing is, those enthusiasts who appreciate the games are still there, they're playing and downloading and enjoying just the same, they're just counterbalanced by another audience these days. So don't let the rantings of the different audiences put you off your continuing success with writing software, mate. You've done bloody well and your software survives through the ages, and supports a mighty fine lifestyle by the looks of it... How many other software authors started in the age of Pet and Vic and are still making an income off writing games and their own brand these days?? I think you're it!! :)



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[info]andrealakid
2008-07-16 02:53 am UTC (link)
I have people sync Outlook to Entourage and back all the time, all day, everyday. They use "The Missing Sync" works fine to sync between machines.

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[info]arron_shutt
2007-09-04 02:10 am UTC (link)
I think that you've done an amazing job, and you're in need of a good holiday. You've turned out a tidy commerical product with a development team of two, and shortly 10,000 people out there will be out there enjoying it. Most of the people who've been critical of your achievements haven't done what you done..and quite frankly they haven't got a cardboard box to stand on. I'm pretty disgusted with some of the treatment you've had to put up from certain people.

You even got a mention on the BBC website today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm

Llamasoft has been around for 25 years, and that's got to be a record..and you're established in a whole new console system and secure distribution channel where the retail distributors can't spoil the party. The future is looking pretty furry :)

Anyway, SG is done, and people on the whole seem to get it. Draw a line under it, take a break and come back fresh to start one the next project..

Namaste dudes and well done! :)

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[info]nadiagehol
2008-07-13 10:49 am UTC (link)
The surface story is worse off, because in several cases it lacks the logical deduction required to draw a line between one major turning point and the next, and instead feels like checking off a to-do list of clues and explanations.

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[info]bubbledragonnet
2007-09-04 03:50 am UTC (link)
You've completely earned every bit of rest you want to take. You've put out a wonderful and unique product in the face of traditionalists and the shortsighted, and you've excelled.

That'll do, Yak. That'll do. Have a huge rest. :)

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[info]kristenymoja
2008-07-16 04:54 am UTC (link)
“If you've got the money, you can move wherever you want,” says Eloise Gibson, a retired teacher in Victorville.

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[info]dezombie
2007-09-04 03:53 am UTC (link)
I am addicted to Space Giraffe so my point of view may be a bit skewed, but like others have stated just sounds like time for a break.

No matter how much effort you cram into a release there is always something which was not predicted. It is frustrating, but the important thing is that the players see you want to fix things. There have been a few XBLA releases which didn't get fixes for 6+ months and players never received word from the developers. While this blog may be informal it is an important interaction which you deserve props for.

I created this account to comment. That is how much of a fan I am.

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[info]shatterstripes
2007-09-04 05:35 am UTC (link)
I got a chance to play a couple rounds of Space Giraffe on a friend's 360 tonight and had a great time. Didn't understand what the hell was going on beyond the bare minimum - that never comes until at least 5-10 goes, for most games with any originality - but I had a blase. And I was going into it half afraid that it would be just 'oh god he's doing a Tempest retread again'. What I could see in the screenshots did have me wondering. But nope - it's an abstract tube shooter, but it's very much its own thing. A very subtle and nuanced thing.

You and Giles did good.

Start planning a vacation. Deal with the bureaucracy of a bugfix, yeah. But start planning a vacation.

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[info]lis0r
2007-09-04 06:14 am UTC (link)
Your sheepiezappers are long past overdue a recharge! Go have a holiday! :)

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[info]scissorkicks
2007-09-04 06:52 am UTC (link)
I really, truly despise the prevalent "oh, isn't everything shit" attitude that is prevalent everywhere nowadays - but particularly on internet forums.

SG was the "pro" that tipped me over the edge into buying a 360 on August bank holiday weekend - an Elite, no less. As I was entering the world of a console I wasn't familiar with, I decided to peruse a few forums to get up to speed with the various issues and maybe get the skinny on some other Live Arcade games that I might enjoy. Everywhere I went, I found forum critics declaring that everything is worthless, at great length. The most shocking to me was the Edge forum, which I used to read a lot a few years back. Some of the macho bullshit spouted by a small group of "hardcore" members just astounded me. There's nothing more pathetic than someone who really has nothing to complain about at all, ranting impotently and unconvincingly. I mean, what kind of pathetic life must these people lead when they think the best use of their time is to devote it to becoming the nastiest, most negative member of a forum on the bloody internet?

SG is a great game. It took me a while to understand it, but that probably makes me love it even more.

Try not to torture yourselves too much over the patch, and make sure you two get a holiday asap!

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[info]hippydave
2007-09-04 12:17 pm UTC (link)
"I really, truly despise the prevalent "oh, isn't everything shit" attitude that is prevalent everywhere nowadays - but particularly on internet forums."

Ain't it the truth. Preach it, brother!

Time for some time out from the world, Jeff. I knew there was trouble brewing a little while back when you posted that you'd realised that you'd forgotten how to enjoy listening to music - for a 24/7 music addict, that's always my first warning sign that something is amiss. This just isn't you, squire! You need a break, and at least you realise it yerself. Spend time with the beasties, become external to some cosmestibles of your choice and drinks of a beeeer nature, and *turn off*. The people who care will still be here when you get back, however long it takes.

:-)

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[info]dr_rik
2007-09-04 10:30 am UTC (link)
Bollocks to what the L4M3Z0RZZZZ (! see, I can to 1337) have to say. I'm fucking loving it. It's the (main) reason I bought a 360 and I've definitely not regretted that decision.

Best way to put it into perspective - I got Bioshock free with my 360, everyone rants about how ace it is and yet I've not even tried it yet as I've been having waaay too much fun with teh Giraffe and other XBLA titles.

I'm still a bit crap at SG but getting there, just tipped 100 mil so far. Quite looking forward to the leaderboard reboot too as this time I'll be in with a chance of a semi-reasonable placing on day 1 - last time everyone else had 2 days head start before I got my 360!


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[info]llamagal
2007-09-04 12:27 pm UTC (link)
You have given so much of yourself to this work. I know how you are. No wonder you need the disconnect.. the time away.. You must recharge YOU. Though it is a llabour of llove, it is a llabour all the same. Take a few steps back. Go find somewhere that soothes your soul. Spend time with Giles, doing things that nourish the both of you. You deserve it. You have earned it. It is your right.

I'm so proud of this work you have turned out. I knew it would come.. that llovely mind altering llegal drug that takes you and immobilizes you from the outside world, taking you where you have never been before.

You have done wonderfully. Now, take care of you, as you need to be reminded. :) *hugggggz*

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[info]sack_
2007-09-04 09:05 pm UTC (link)
I'm too knackered to post a long post right now... Just assume I'm harassing you into booking a holiday and taking off for a rest and a few beers like everyone else is :)

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[info]mort_dansant
2007-09-05 10:02 am UTC (link)
*hugs* to both of you in Llamaland HQ.

Space Giraffe is ace, I'm reasonably shite at it but it's still ace, and what's more it's everything you've been saying it was going to be and some more.

Regardless of the crao that's being flung around you've done something amazing:

not only have you delivered on a promise you made a while back, to deliver something truly in the spirit of Llamasoft, but you've also done something amazingly important.

Against the odds you have proved that a talented two man independant developer can still hang there with the big boys and make a difference!

I'm sure there are very very few talented teams like yours that can pull it off, but it proves it can be done :)

Now take some time off, recharge your batteries, and get that itch back that just has to be scratched by writing another top notch game.

It's great to see Llamasoft back on top again, where it rightly deserves.

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[info]miktar
2007-09-05 01:14 pm UTC (link)
I'm just about to break past level 50 in Space Giraffe, and I wouldn't have gotten this far without you. *thumbs up*

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[info]sarapis
2007-09-07 01:01 am UTC (link)
Personally I have quite enjoyed Space Giraffe. I'm still at level 10, but on the leader board I'm around people who have reached level 30+, so I think I've *got* the game, and I've got a lot of achievements already.

Currently, just behind Doom, it's my second favorite Xbox Live arcade game, and I was well pleased that it was for sale for so cheap.

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Yammering?
[info]matt_kamineko
2007-09-15 09:45 pm UTC (link)
Yammering on about trivial stuff? Moi!?

You mus' be 'avvin' a giraffe, mate. :)

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