stinkygoat ([info]stinkygoat) wrote,
@ 2007-05-31 02:44:00
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So I think we are all we wanted to be
on the road to release... but it's amazing really that we've had to vouch so explicitly for the fact that we are not in any way offensive, or explicit, or whatever... really, we aren't, we're so abstract that nothing of what we do could even remotely be construed as explicit.

I had to give this reply to a question:

"it doesn't get suddenly any different or more suggestive than what we have shown there - it is after all an abstract game, it's just shapes shooting shapes and firework explosions, there's no realism and no blood and no sex or anything... I don't know what more we can show except a video of all the 100 levels demonstrating that's that is all we are?

I do understand the need for innocense to be explicit, these days, but I really don't see how it is possible to be more explicitly innocent than we already are. The game is just geometric shapes shooting at geometric shapes, and fireworks, and no possibility for blood, nudity, explicit violence, or anything else that could be offensive at all, really. We're not literal, there is nothing in what we portray that can be tied to any aspect of the real world. I don't know how we could be more abstract or more inoffensive. I never wanted to create anything "violent". SG is more about creating an interactive firework display than it is about "killing" things. It's about making "shooting" be a constructive thing rather than a destructive thing.

I don't know how to explain that except through evident intent and the game itself. All I want from SG is for it to be harmless and beautiful."

and that's true, SG really is just geometric shapes shooting at other geometric shapes; there are fireworks, bot no blood; nothing really that could translate into the real world at all. No blood, no dying creatures, just things intersecting with other things and fireworks as a result. But on the ratings forms, and in the minds of those judging what we've done, there appears to be no setting for "abstract shooter, none of the above is relevant" and I have to go through forms asserting that there is no sex amongst my geometric objects, no nudity of my neon triangles, and no blood spatters from sundering those polygons.

Can we not just have a "clearly does not apply" tick box on the submission form? Please?


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[info]loshi
2007-05-31 02:07 am UTC (link)
Well, I understand their concern, since your games are pure sex. Where they go wrong is not understanding that there is a difference between "pure sex" and "actual sex."

Pure sex, you see, goes on forever until you run out of lives. Actual sex, at least in my experience, ends in an apology and a promise to do better next time.

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[info]shatterstripes
2007-05-31 02:39 am UTC (link)
I guess nobody wants to have the next 'Hot Coffee' on their hands. Gotta make sure all the easter eggs are age-appropriate. Even the ones you nop'd out. Someone might hack the game and bring them back.

What about all the focus on giraffe nads, though? We can't have the children of the world accidentally thinking about giraffe testicles and their magical powers of destroying enemies en masse!

Maybe not.

More seriously: "Trying to make 'shooting' be a constructive thing rather than a destructive thing" is a fascinating thought, that goes straight to some of my growing discomfort with the video games I've played so long as they get more and more "real" - in toxic, nasty ways, because iRL there's always a lot of other options besides the 'hurt' button, while most games give you nothing but a handful of ways to hurt things. I keep playing with ideas for non-violent games I'll never have the time to write but it's hard to get away from the appeal of 'push the button to fire a projectile at a target'; we're wired to solve that physics equation in realtime, and to take deep pleasure in doing it.

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Now I need...
[info]failrate
2007-05-31 04:03 am UTC (link)
... to make a game with a "Hurt" button.

Seriously, though, you could prototype your ideas in something like Game Maker. Even if you don't have the time to do it proper yourself, you might inspire someone else :D

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[info]jonnyram
2007-05-31 03:02 am UTC (link)
Maybe they remember the old "otter spunk" screenshots and they're scared there's some hidden animal lewdness? :)

I'm just glad you've got this far already. I can't wait to play SG myself!

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[info]tanatoes
2007-06-02 03:49 pm UTC (link)
I'm hypothisizing that all the text in the game is in .h files or somesuch for localization purposes, so this at least is easy for the censors to review.

Ditto about not being able to wait for the game, though! Please hurry, M$ bureaucracy!

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[info]dunkdunkdunk
2007-05-31 08:46 am UTC (link)
How about a "Please confirm all nads have been removed" tickbox :-)

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It's the world gone absolutely bonkers.
[info]gilesgoat
2007-05-31 09:36 am UTC (link)
It's the world gone absolutely bonkers, over puritan, over sensite and over crap.

From one side, from the other side it's the big party festival of money-munchers that protect themselves under the thin curtain of "we are non profit we are here to protect people" and parasites people living trying to find every possible "fault" on things to sue companies for millions making money "from the air".

It's fucking cunty bollocks absolutely frustrating.

And lot of people trying to unload the barrel from themselves into someone else because "if worse happends it's not our fault buy YOURS".

It's true that some videogames are completely bonkers as well but it's also true that "a fictional story is NOT the reality NOR is intended to be".

If we arrived ( and unfortunatelly we are ) at the point where "one sees something on a screen declared to be a fictional work and then pretends that to be reality and do the same in reality" well ... well, is the shit we are in today.

It's bonkers, it's the common sense, the sense of humour and the "normal way of things" went totally out of control .. in a way, again, is a "I don't want to be responsible I want someone else to be".

So if you are not able to judge something by yourself then you want an organization to do it for you and take responsibility, you want to feel ok you did "the right thing" for your children because a label says "it's ok" then if you find it's not ok ( for you ) you'll sue those that say so ..

Once you feel ok, you'll leave your child playing those things while you'll be busy doing something else that probably would be "inappropiate" for him, you won't be there playing with him/her and exaplaining him/her what's going on and what we are seeing on that screen, it's safe, it's rated, I don't have to.

It's very frustrating all this shite, all the geopolitical issues and all the crap we live in today.

Really, honestly, would have the possibility I would not do games in this way, I'll do them completely UNrated and distributed someway else.

Unfortunatelly it seems it's not possibile to live this way because it does not work, you'd be sleeping under the bridges scavenging dustbins for food otrherwise :/

We have to live in this shite of today.

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[info]arron_shutt
2007-05-31 09:49 am UTC (link)
If people can look at a piece of abstractly burned toast and see Jesus, then people will look at a bunch of abstract pixels and see naughty pr0n images. I think that it must be something in the water over there. You are talking of a nation who have people sending in money to teleevangelists as a means to be blessed..

I take the approach that filth in in the mind of the beholder! ;)

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[info]almagill
2007-05-31 01:38 pm UTC (link)
I'm just off to get some more mindbleach then...

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[info]fox_uk
2007-05-31 02:48 pm UTC (link)
Fair enough.

But then again, Anal Score?! :D

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[info]shapermc
2007-05-31 05:06 pm UTC (link)
T for teen: Due to mild geometric violence and possible sexual connotations.

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[info]arganoid
2007-05-31 08:41 pm UTC (link)
In the game I'm working on currently, I want to include a robot character named "Unit 5318088".

I don't think I'll be allowed to, though.

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[info]arganoid
2007-05-31 08:42 pm UTC (link)
Of course I meant "Unit 5318008".

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or
[info]failrate
2007-06-01 03:20 am UTC (link)
55378008

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[info]lezek
2007-06-01 09:03 pm UTC (link)
It's high time that someone took all censors and burned them in a big fire.

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What did u expect?
[info]doublehumps
2007-06-05 03:33 am UTC (link)
Any Mummy or Daddy who's checking out SG for their young kiddy and types 'Space Giraffe' in google image is presented with 'Cunt Cunt' 'Fluffy Fucker' 'Otter Spunk'. You can't act all bemused that SG is under such intense scrutiny with those spicy shots sitting next to every mention of it for the rest of time!
Should have just left the swearing in and made it and 18+ only affair ;)

Now someone hurry up and deliever it to my telly!












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